Episode 6

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27th Sep 2024

AI-Generated Podcasts: The Future of Audio Storytelling?

As AI continues to reshape the industry, we take a look at the balance between innovation and preserving the unique elements that make podcasts special.

Join us as we navigate this new landscape and consider the implications of AI-generated content on creativity and diversity of thought

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Okay, so have you heard about this new AI tool, NotebookLM, fro

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Google? Apparently you can make a

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whole podcast, like with two hosts

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in just a few hours.

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Wow. So not just like generating show notes or something?

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No, like a full on audio experience with distinct AI personalities

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and everything. Kind of wild, right?

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It is pretty wild when you think about it. It's like, what does

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it even mean to be a host in the

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age of AI, right?

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And it's not just theoretical either. This article I was reading,

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the author actually used notebook LM

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to make a whole podcast called be

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a better podcaster.

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Oh, wow, talk about meta. A podcast about podcasting made by

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a podcasting AI.

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Exactly. It's like this weird AI inception thing, but it kind of

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makes you think this could really

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shake things up in the podcasting

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world.

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For sure. I mean, not everyone has a fancy studio or knows how to

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use all the editing software. This

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could be huge for people who want

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to share their stories but find the

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whole podcasting thing intimidating,

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like a total game changer.

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But how does it even work? You just like feed it information and

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it spits out a podcast.

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Pretty much. Say you find a really interesting article and you

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think this would make a great conversation,

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which, let's be honest, is.

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How I get ideas for about half of our deep dives.

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Well, there you go. So you upload the article to notebook LM,

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select the audio interview option,

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and boom. The AI takes over and creates

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a whole conversation based on that

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content.

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No more spending hours editing out my rambling tangents. I'm sold.

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But really, how realistic does it

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actually sound? Like? Would people

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actually believe it's two real people

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having a conversation?

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Well, according to the article, it's surprisingly convincing.

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You know, AI speech synthesis has come

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a long way even in the last couple

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of years.

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True, Siri doesn't sound quite as robotic as she used to.

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Exactly. And apparently notebook LM is even better. It tries

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to capture those nuances of human

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conversation, like intonation and

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pacing. Although the article did

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say its not 100% perfect just yet.

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Yeah, the author mentioned a few times where the pauses between

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words were a little off, or the inflection

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sounded a bit robotic. I guess were

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not quite at the point where AI can

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perfectly replicate the human voice.

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Not yet, anyway. But even with a few imperfections, the potential

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here is huge. Think about it. You could

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have AI generate different versions

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of your podcast in different languages

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or tailored to different audiences.

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That's actually amazing. Talk about expanding your reach. But it

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still seems like the human touch

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is important, you know, coming up with

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the initial concept, giving the AI

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direction, and actually promoting

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the podcast.

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Oh, absolutely. This isn't about replacing human creativity,

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it's about augmenting it. Like giving

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creators a powerful new tool to work

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with.

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It's like AI can handle the technical side of things, so we're

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free to focus on the creative side.

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Exactly. It's about working smarter, not harder. And who knows

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what amazing new ideas and formats

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we'll come up with when we have AI

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to help us bring them to life.

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So instead of thinking of AI as a threat, we should be thinking

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of it as an opportunity.

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Precisely. An opportunity to push our own creativity further.

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Speaking of pushing boundaries, this whole thing got

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me thinking about authenticity. Like,

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what makes a podcast great? Is it

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the perfectly edited sound, or is

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it that raw human connection you

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get when you're listening to a conversation?

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Right? And that's something I'm really grappling with, because

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if the hosts aren't even human, can

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you really have that same level of

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connection with the audience?

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That's a great question, and one that I'm not sure even the AI

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has an answer to yet.

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It really makes you wonder, where do we draw the line? Like,

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will we get to a point where podcasts

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are so polished, so perfectly produced,

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that they lose that raw human element?

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It's like, what's that saying? Too much of a good thing?

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Exactly. You know, I think back to when I first started podcasting,

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I was so focused on trying to sound

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professional, you know, like those

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big time radio hosts.

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Oh, yeah, with the perfect diction and everything.

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Yeah, exactly. But I sounded so stiff and rehearsed, it was painful.

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It wasn't until I just relaxed, let

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my guard down a little, that people

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really started responding to the

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podcast.

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So it was those imperfections, those little glimpses of your personality,

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that made people connect.

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Exactly. And that's what I worry about with all this AI stuff,

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that we'll lose.

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That human element, that spark of authenticity.

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Exactly. It's like AI can help us create amazing sounding podcasts,

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but it can't replace the human heart

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at the center of it all.

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So then how do we find that balance? How do we embrace these

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new AI tools without losing what makes

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podcasting special?

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That's the million dollar question, isn't it? I don't know

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if there's an easy answer, but I do

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think it starts with being really

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intentional about why we're using

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AI in the first place.

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Like, what's the goal, right?

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Is it just to make things easier, faster, cheaper? Or are we

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using AI to actually enhance our

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creativity, to tell better stories,

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to connect with our audience on a deeper

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level.

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Because a hammer can build a house or it can break stuff, it all

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depends on the person using it.

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Exactly. And with AI, the stakes are even higher. I mean, we're

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talking about a technology that can

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mimic or even surpass human intelligence.

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We have to be careful with how we use

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it.

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Which leads to another question. What about the listeners?

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How are they going to react to all of

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this? Like, do people even want to

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listen to AI generated podcasts?

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Right? Are listeners going to be okay with this, man, the real

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deal.

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And if we do start using AI in podcasting, shouldn't we be upfront

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about it? Like, should there be some

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kind of disclaimer?

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Transparency is definitely important. Just like with any other

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aspect of podcasting. If you're using

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AI to help you create your show,

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tell your listeners they deserve to know.

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But where's the line? Like, are we going to start seeing warning

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labels on podcast apps? This podcast

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contains AI generated voices. Listener

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discretion is advised.

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It's tricky, right? We don't want to stifle innovation, but we

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also don't want to mislead anyone.

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This is uncharted territory.

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Who knows? Maybe podcast apps will start categorizing podcasts

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based on how much AI was used in the making

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of them.

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It's possible. I mean, we're already seeing AI being used for

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things like content recommendations

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and targeted advertising. It wouldn't

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surprise me if it eventually spills

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over into how podcasts are categorized

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and presented to listeners.

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There's a lot to think about.

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It is. And then there's the whole question of how AI will impact

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the podcasting industry as a whole.

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Right? Like, will this lead to more opportunities for creators?

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Or will AI end up replacing human podcasters

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altogether?

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Some people think we're headed for an AI powered podcasting boom.

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Lower barriers to entry, more diverse

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voices, endless possibilities.

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And others are worried about job losses, the devaluation of human

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creativity, that kind of thing.

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It's definitely a time of great change and uncertainty. But

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if there's one thing I know for sure,

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it's that AI isn't going away.

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It's here to stay.

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Exactly. And like it or not, it's going to continue to shape the

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way we create, consume, and even

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think about podcasts.

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Well, speaking of AI and podcasting, we haven't even gotten

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to the most meta part of the article

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yet.

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Oh, you mean the part where the author actually listens to the

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AI podcast and tells us if it's any

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good?

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Exactly. So what did they think? Was it any good?

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Well, according to their article, it was surprisingly convincing.

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The AI host, they actually discussed

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the main points of the article, like,

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in a natural back and forth way.

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Get out. So, like, you ask questions and everything.

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Questions, answers, even a little humor thrown in there.

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Hold on. Humor? Like the AI was making jokes.

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That's what the article said.

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I gotta know, was it actually funny? Or like that painful kind

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of AI humor that makes you wanna hide

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under a rock?

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The article didn't really go into detail about the AI's comedic

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timing, but it did say that overall,

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it was really engaging to listen to,

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even with a few rough edges here

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and there. Like, the pauses weren't perfect,

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right?

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That robotic cadence.

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Yeah, exactly.

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But still, it's pretty mind blowing creating a whole podcast

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episode with AI in a few hours. I

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mean, come on.

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It's a game changer for sure. Especially for people who are just

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starting out with podcasting or anyone

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who doesn't have a ton of time or

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resources.

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Right? It could really open doors for a lot of people.

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Exactly. Imagine being able to just get your ideas out there in

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this really polished and engaging

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way. No need for expensive equipment or

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anything.

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The democratization of podcasting or something.

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Right. But then it also makes you wonder, like, what happens when

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everyone and their grandma can create

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a professional sounding podcast,

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right?

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Is that a good thing or a bad thing? More voices, more diversity

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of thought. That's great. But are we

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gonna end up drowning in a sea of

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content?

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It's hard to say. It's like opening pandora's box. In a way,

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we're sticking into this uncharted

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territory. It's both exciting and

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a little bit terrifying.

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No doubt. But one thing's for sure, this AI stuff is changing the

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game.

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Absolutely. And it's up to all of us to figure out how we're going

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to navigate this new landscape.

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So, to our listeners out there, what do you think? Are you

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ready for the age of AI podcasting?

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Let us know. Hit us up on social media. Send us an email. We

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want to hear your thoughts on this

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whole AI revolution.

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And hey, maybe you'll even hear your thoughts featured on a

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future deep dive.

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Who knows? Maybe we'll even let the AI chime in with its two

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cent.

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Until next time, keep exploring, keep creating, and keep

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listening.

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